Roycrofters, Elbert Hubbard, and My Dad

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By Pam Pounds

Photo of My Dad

My dad, Boyd Savage, Jr. in 2005, one year before he died.
My dad, Boyd Savage, Jr. in 2005, one year before he died.

Dad's Bookcase

After my dad died in 2006, I was part of the family crew to help decide the allocation of all of his earthly possessions. His place had been sold, and we had to clear it out.

His most personal belongings that were of sentimental value had already been spoken for and properly assigned to family members. We were at the point when we now had to deal with the everyday "stuff". From the obvious: furniture, lamps, stuff on the walls - to the everyday consumable-type stuff: the large stash of toilet paper and cleaning supplies, the frozen selection of Stouffer's foods, to the half bottle of whiskey.

Take it away, give it away, throw it away - we had to figure out what to do with everything and move it all away.

Dad had a wall full of bookcases on one end of the living room. His bookcases reflected that he was more into thoughtful and functional decoration as opposed to housing books. As I recall, he was never a very avid bookreader.

However, what he read, and what he loved, were newspapers. He was a true newspaperman. He spent a fruitful 40-year career as an advertising salesman for the Los Angeles Times.

If it wasn't thrown on the front porch, printed on newsprint in 6-column tabloid format, and contained pages and pages of classified ads, he really wasn't too terribly interested.

So, on this particular day, after he was gone, it was my job to pack up the decorative contents of his bookcases.

The bookcases were filled with some of Dad's own memorabilia: framed photos of his kids and grandkids, a set of maracas from a 1965 trip to Mexico, and three sterling silver award cups he achieved for breaking advertising sales records at The Times.

There were a few miscellaneous books. Nothing really earthshattering.

Cookbooks. I wanted those!

A few James Michener novels, some historical World War II factbooks, and one very interesting book that documents the internal history, triumph and turmoil of the Los Angeles Times from 1881 to 2000. Privileged Son: Otis Chandler and the Rise and Fall of the L.A. Times Dynasty, by Dennis McDougal.

On the very bottom shelf, there was a set of 14 black, identically sized books lined up neatly like a set of encyclopedias. These were not encyclopedias, but they were really old books.

Hmmm, Dad never really talked about these. While my curiosity was piqued, there was no time to think about them right now. I just boxed them up and took them home. I thought that when I had some time, I would surf the net and see what I could find out about them.

Fast forward to 2008

I got a fung shei attack to get my garage organized. I would finally like to park my car in there. So, I'm looking at the things that maybe I can get rid of and sell on eBay.

I spot the box with my dad's old books. So, exactly how old are they?

I take one of the books out and open the inside few pages looking for a date. 1916.

I'm thinkin' "Ca-Ching!"

Front Cover of Memorial Edition. Roycrofter's memorial to Elbert Hubbard. Tree represents his life's work; water is the last voyage of the Lusitania; sunset and mountains symbolize Hubbard's "Little Journey to the Great Beyond" (Roycrofters)
Front Cover of Memorial Edition. Roycrofter's memorial to Elbert Hubbard. Tree represents his life's work; water is the last voyage of the Lusitania; sunset and mountains symbolize Hubbard's "Little Journey to the Great Beyond" (Roycrofters)

"The mintage of wisdom is to know that rest is rust, and that real life is in love, laughter and work."

Elbert Hubbard

"Little Journeys" Series by Elbert Hubbard...and a Surprise

In my quest for gaining the highest price for these old books, I bring them into my home office for closer examination.

They are in surprisingly good condition for being 92 years old. The book covers are leather, with embossed art detailing. The pages are roughly trimmed on the edges, called "deckle edge", the result of the manufacturing process of handmade books.

This particular set of books is the Memorial Edition of Elbert Hubbard's Little Journeys. This edition was published in 1916, about a year after Hubbard died. Hubbard and his wife, Alice Moore Hubbard were killed when the Lusitania was torpedoed and sank on May 7, 1915.

Elbert Hubbard was a writer, a publisher, and one of the founders of the Roycroft Shop. The name came from Samuel and Thomas Roycroft, who printed very beautiful books in London from about 1650 to 1690. The meaning of Roycroft was King's Craft, in old times, a term for the achievement of high skill. In his Little Journey's autobiography, Elbert Hubbard describes a Roycrofter as "a person who makes beautiful things, and makes them as well as he can." The philosophy of the Roycroft Shop was to balance between work and right living - "sweat shop methods did not produce beautiful things" (Elbert Hubbard, Little Journeys)

When I opened the first volume of Little Journeys, I was stunned to see what was on the introductory first pages.

These books were especially made by Roycrofters, on behalf of my great grandfather, Burt Savage, for his son, Boyd Savage on his 21st birthday - in 1916.

Dedication Page from My Great Grandfather

Left photo is Elbert Hubbard. Right photo illustrates the dedication: "For my son Boyd on his twenty-first birthday. Bert. A. Savage"
Left photo is Elbert Hubbard. Right photo illustrates the dedication: "For my son Boyd on his twenty-first birthday. Bert. A. Savage"

The 14-Volume Set of Little Journeys

  • Volume I - To the Homes of Good Men and Great
  • Volume II - To the Homes of Famous Women
  • Volume III - To the Homes of American Statesmen
  • Volume IV - To the Homes of Eminent Painters
  • Volume V - To the Homes of English Authors
  • Volume VI - To the Homes of Eminent Artists
  • Volume VII - To the Homes of Eminent Orators
  • Volume VIII - To the Homes of Great Philosophers
  • Volume IX - To the Homes of Great Reformers
  • Volume X - To the Homes of Great Teachers
  • Volume XI - To the Homes of Great Businessmen
  • Volume XII - To the Homes of Great Scientists
  • Volume XIII - To the Homes of Great Lovers
  • Volume XIV - To the Homes of Great Musicians

Elbert Hubbard appeared to be the most welcomed guest, visiting the homes of the distinguished likes of Gainsborough and Leonardo, John J. Astor, Jane Austin, Empress Josephine, George Washington and Ben Franklin.

He documented his visits to the homes of history's most wise, talented and influential people. The Roycrofters printed his stories in these beautiful books, and in 1916, my great-grandfather had a Memorial Edition printed up just for my grandfather's 21st birthday.

And, today, I'm thinking about putting them on eBay.

Sentiment vs. Logic

The sentimental part of me felt that the value of these books suddenly took on a whole new meaning, truly deeper than the mere pittance of money. These books touched my heart.

However, the logical part of me said, "Wait a minute - I never laid eyes on either of these men - grandfather or great-grandfather Savage. As a matter of fact, the stories I overheard as a young girl, my grandfather left my grandmother high, dry, poor and alone, circa 1937, to raise my father and his two sisters."

Grandpa was not a great guy. Boyd Savage SENIOR abandoned his family.

My grandmother made tremendous sacrifices for her children. When I was a young child, she was still working to make ends meet as a schoolteacher at the Sixth Street School in Los Angeles. She struggled for years - for all that she did for her children - and for all that she became to me. She was my hero.

If I got $6.99 for the whole set, it would make more room in my garage.

Sell them, or save them? That is the question.

Need Help with My Dilemma

Should I Try to Sell the 14-Volumes??

  • Yes
  • No
See results without voting

Comments

Thomas Griswold 4 months ago

I have the complete set of leather bond books. Does anyone have an idea of their worth? Condition is excellent.

Tami Barber 10 months ago

Well to to those that have an interest in selling a set of these books I would be interested. We have an original Roycroft book shelf that was made exclusivly to hold these sweet little books. Not looking to pay a fortune but would love to complete the set and make it original. Email me at etwcb4@comcast.net if interested. Thanks! and Blessings!!

Michael  18 months ago

I've come in search for the same reasons. I too have this set. Most of the pages have not even been separated. My mother was a most avid reader but did not venture into Little Journeys. If you value the memory or your loved one, then no. If they hold a lasting and binding tie then no. If you are a person that feels they belong in the hands of someone who truly would love them and care for them and appreciate there worth then by all means sell. I am of the latter. My books would better be in the hands of one who loves books.

My mother is in my heart not between the pages.

sandy rich 18 months ago

my husband has the little journeys musicians by elbert hubbard dated 1901 they are in excellent condition...

he inhertied them from his father and grand mother and

his grand father Ben E. Rich from Salt lake city..

1890's ??? they are just here!

Dmceieio 18 months ago

My dad passed away a few years ago he has the same set still on the book shelf where my mother still lives. He was always reading them. Let me know if you want to sell. I could never ask my mother for them.

Dmceieio@sbcglobal.net

Bob Beebe 20 months ago

My parents passed away and I now have a 15 set of Books "Little Journeys by Elbert Hubbard plus The Little Journey's Guide Book. The set is in absolutely mint condition. Each book has paper jacket protecting the leather cover. You could classify them as brand new. I am not a reader and wish to get rid of them. How do I do it and what is the value.

candace lizana 23 months ago

I to have one of Mr. Hubbard's books, A signed copy of As It Seems To Me copyright 1898 inherited by my grandmother in 2005. Inside the cover,which is brown squade, it says DONE INTO A BOOK AT THE ROYCROFT SHOP THAT IS IN EAST AURORA,NEW YORK,U.S.A. I can't find it anywhere, so I'm glad you decided to keep them.Good luck and pass them on to your children.

alyssa 2 years ago

Don't sell them. No one will have the same feeling for them as you do. No one will have the story of their family to go along with them. that's rare for you to have those, and I would pass them down. Your great-grandfather did. Why should you?

Rick Hamell 2 years ago

I was given a set of these books by my wife's Grandfather for Christmas two years ago. I just started reading them myself and was Googling for references made in the books and came across this page.

I wanted to mention that as a historian, these books are invaluable for the reasons above. Mr Hubbard seems to have been quite the traveler and wrote about a lot of places that aren't really mentioned anywhere else.

MurielOK 3 years ago

I have Elbert Hubbard's Scrapbook full of great quotes and A Message to Garcia. Hubbard was the Zig Ziglar of his day. There are still many copies of his book around. So keep one that appeals to you and sell the rest.

Tina 3 years ago

I have a set of these books, I love books and history and I am so happy to have my copy of a part of history. I could not and would not consider getting rid of them. Read them, enjoy, never let go of them.

Thanks,

Tina

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Pam Pounds Hub Author 3 years ago

Hi Robert - no, I did not get rid of the books! I dusted them off, and they now are displayed prominently in a bookshelf in my home office. Thanks for stopping by!

ROBERT 3 years ago

Did you get rid of them

Thomas Keeney 3 years ago

Pam: you must keep them for all of the postive reasons stated above. The are YOUR family history, good, bad, or indifferent. The mere fact that there is a dedication page to your father is the most solid of reasons.

mandy-jo 3 years ago

I also have in my possesion volume 14 "little journeys" by elbert hubbard. It is in great condition with the jacket still on an the leather in perfect condition. The individual pages are not "cut" to seperate them however. I found this odd. It was also printed in 1916 an I really wondered if it would be worth something.

Gail 3 years ago

Pam,

Thanks for researching these books; amazing that they were on your Dad's shelf all these years! I vote for keeping them too!!

Gail

YBF 3 years ago

I agree with Don Voller....whether a bum or hero, your great-grandfather considered this to be a worthy present for your grandfather. Though it's a challenge, we should accept all of the limbs in our family tree...even the crooked or otherwise unappealing ones!

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Pam Pounds Hub Author 3 years ago

They're not worth millions...in fact, in a little bit of the research I've been doing, they don't seem to be worth much anyway (monetarily speaking). Thanks everyone for the comments and for voting! Right now the books are sitting prominently on my bookshelf!

Jesse_J 3 years ago

Unless you can sell them for millions...of course you should keep them.

Elizabeth Jarvis 3 years ago

I can't believe that you want to sell them!!! My vote is no!!! I agree with Don, those books are priceless!

don voller 3 years ago

absulutely keep them. Your grandfather, good or bad, is a part of the family history. stuff like this is priceless!

Steven Savage 3 years ago

Keep them, they are family memorabilia. Unless they are worthy of being put in a museum they are only valualbe to the family.

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crashcromwell Level 1 Commenter 3 years ago

I voted to sell them because it's a couple generations removed, and it sounds like it would be good for the sake of karma to "allow" them to enrich the family a bit.

Jim Henry, aka crashcromwell

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